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I only have 5 chickens, but I am getting way to many eggs, at least 6 to 8 a day.

I have pickled a bunch and given some away to family /friends, I have about 5 dozen in the fridge, anyone have any storage ideas?

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Crack the eggs, beat them like you were going to make scrambled eggs, and store them in an air-tight container in your freezer (preferably a deep-freeze without a defrost cycle) for up to a year.

I found that recommendation here:
http://greenliving.suite101.com/arti...h_chicken_eggs

There is some mention of old methods of preserving eggs that were formerly recommended by the USDA and Purdue University. They've fallen out of favor due to the prevalence of refrigeration, but I'm sure they still work. The eggs were stored in crocks in water mixed with sodium silicate or lime, apparently. There's no detail on the methods at the link above, but I'm sure you can find out more by googling.


Oh - and might I suggest killing a couple of the older hens and eating them? Assuming they are not pets, that is. That should help reduce your daily egg count. Fried chicken! Yum yum. Or if they are old birds, maybe Coq au Vin. But with hen instead of rooster.

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Give them away. Friends, family and neighbors....

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We have the same problem. We just eat more, not just for breakfast, we crack a couple scrambled eggs into almost anything we prepare. You wont even notice that they are there.

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Quiche is delicious too, and uses quite a few. We always had grateful takers for our extras though, they taste so good compared to store eggs.

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DYOD, but eggs might last a lot longer than expected outside the fridge. Here's one link I just dug up, but seems to me that I saw a more comprehensive article recently saying that fresh eggs have a relatively long shelf life outside the fridge.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_eggs_spoil_unrefrigerated


Just my two cents, don't kill your chickens just because they're laying more eggs than you can eat. Keep the chickens and give the eggs away. I'd think it'd normally be inadvisable to kill a productive animal, because it's better to have "too much" of something than not enough.

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Advocat

12 egg yolks
1 cup sugar
1 1/2 cups brandy
1 tsp. vanilla
1 pint heavy whipping cream

In a bowl beat 12 egg yolks until they are frothy. Beat in sugar until the mixture is thick and golden. Transfer mixture to the top of a double boiler over simmering water. Add brandy and vanilla whisk til thoroughly blended. Let cool and refrigerate overnight. Beat whipping cream until it holds it's shape. (Save a bit for garnish if you wish.) Fold into egg mixture. Add dollop of cream and top with a sprinkle of cinnamon.

Advocat on wikipedia

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Make noodles. I've stored homemade noodles for 5 years in my basement and they were just as good at 5 years as they were when they were fresh. All you need is flour and a rolling pin.

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That is my experience. I worked at a grocery store about 10 years ago and our eggs sat in the back store room, in crates, unrefridgerated until the shelves cleared enough to restock. Then they got refigerated.

I asked the store manager about it cause I was just a punk kid and thought it wasn't right, he told me they can go two weeks w/o a refigerator, and the only reason they put them in a fridge on the floor was because people didn't know any better...

No idea if he was right/wrong/etc but thats what he told me, granted I still stick our eggs in the fridge...

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get a few more chickens and start selling the eggs.
that's what my folks do. they have about 30 chickens and sell of to ppl willing to pay 3 bucks a dozen for organic farm fresh eggs.
they don't get rich off it, but it pays for the chickens plus a little bit, and they have plenty of eggs for friends and family.

any extras i would suggest storing them on the cars of your local politicians. they can last for a good long time if they are properly applied to the paint...

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that time of year for the pickled egg thread to come back

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Have you talked to the owner of your local farmers market? Maybe trade a few dozen for some fresh veggies? Plus this is a good way to get to know the owner of the market, which may come in handy in a SHTF scenerio...:ok::ok:

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I would not kill the hen that laid the extra egg. They will slow down and then you will miss her. If you can't give them away fast enough, you don't know enough hard up people.

You can boil them up, let them cool and then mash them up so they don't look like eggs, and feed them back to the hens.

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You can coat the egg shell in vaseline and get significantly longer life out of the eggs.

http://chestofbooks.com/reference/He...n-of-Eggs.html

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scramble them and feed back to hens

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Is Glenn Beck coming to town?

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With all due respect, chickens can not lay more than one egg a day. It might happen on a very rare occasion that one might lay one in the morning and one in the late evening, but this is very abnormal.

Chickens often don't even lay for two days in a row. There will usually take a day off in between. You might see a common pattern of laying for two days or three days straight, but then they will take a day or two off.

Is it possible that you are not collecting every day or some are hiding and it is making you to think that they are laying more than one a day? It is just not physically possible for you to get that many eggs from that many birds.

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There's obviously a fox that makes the rounds stealing eggs and putting them into a sack. his last coop on his circuit it the OP's and that is where he gorges himself. he frequently is too stuffed to eat all of the eggs that he has collected from the other coops and there are a couple left over....

OR

Friends and family keep wondering why the hell some of the spots in the egg cartons the OP gives them have approximately egg sized rocks in them...

OR

there's some unsanctioned late night hen parties that the neighbors hens join in on at night. Perhaps your roost has a popular cock?

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I second the whipping and freezing. Still, that's a near term solution. I've also made a number of quiches (?) and froze them. Reheated fine, though the crust suffered. Have omelettes for supper.
Giving eggs away makes for tremendous goodwill. Sometimes I wonder if I've kept my job here because I give out multicolored eggs. Not kidding. God, fresh eggs are the best. Like chicken-made butter. Wow.
My hens are prima donnas and bitc* at me regularly. Not kidding. Something about "the lifestyle to which they are accustomed" or some nonsense.

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It is possible, sometimes I don't know if I am coming or going, But those chickens keep laying, Lots of eggs all the time. Thanks for all the useful advise, and I will keep eatin lots of eggs. I love eggs !!!!!:emotions16:

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Not my personal experience, but my Grandmother caught several of her hens hiding eggs.

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It's good protien for your dogs and cats. We mix one scrambled egg, one hot dog (fat for their coats) and a hand full of cooked rice into a pan that gets a pat of butter (again, fat for their coats) and heat it all up. Mix it in their food and good to go. That's split into three bowls for three dogs into their dry food.

They ONLY get dry food. Very low fat content on purpose. We would rather CONTROL the fat they get rather than let some company 'add it' into the food.

Hope that helps.

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What Banjo said, Give them to neighbors. When TSHTF good neighbors will be worth more than gold.

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If I had any neighbors I would, nearest is 6 miles away. When I remember I take a bunch to town with me and give to the family.

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Anyone in your area that would appreciate some free eggs? Maybe a single mom with kids that is struggling? Neighbors that have lost their job recently?

That or sell them.

I like eggs and have a big appetite so I would just eat them all. I would probably eat a dozen a day if cost was not an issue. (I usually buy organic eggs)

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How To Store Fresh Eggs Without Refrigeration
http://www.greatdreams.com/egg-storage.htm

At the end of this page, you will find the USDA information on storing eggs with Liquid Sodium Silicate, known sometimes as the brand name, K-Peg. This is highly informative and very important if you are going to use this product to store eggs.

Have you ever wondered how your great-grandparents stored eggs? Perhaps they didn't, perhaps they used only fresh eggs. But many folks regularly stored their eggs and used them throughout the winter months.

Chickens normally respond to daylight by laying more eggs. Oppositely, when there is little daylight, there are fewer eggs layed. So in the winter when days are shorter, it's good to be able to depend on a fresh egg supply.

There are two ways that I know of to store eggs without refrigeration. They both require cool temperatures, however. A cellar, cool basement or cool room in the house will suffice. The cooler the better the chance that your eggs will last longer.

The first method is to coat the eggs with a non-toxic substance, sealing the pores in the shell and thereby sealing out oxygen and moisture. When oxygen is present, many bacteria can grow, thus spoiled eggs.

To use lard or shortening to coat the eggs, first melt the grease and cool it til it begins to solidify again. Dip each egg in the melted grease individually and set them on a paper towel to dry. When the shortening or lard is dry on the eggs, rub the eggs with a clean towel, removing excess solid grease. Rub gently and buff each egg. Now repeat the process, before the shortening solidifies. Work fast, allowing the shortening to get almost solid before re-heating it.

Line the bottom of a flat box with a clean soft towel. Place the eggs in the box in a single layer. Cover the box with either a lid or another towel. Place the box of eggs in a cool, dry environment. Eggs prepared this way will last up to 6 months, although I have heard people say that they have kept eggs this way for 1 year if they are kept very cool.
A product used to coat eggs in this way, but that is supposed to keep the eggs fresh longer is K-Peg. The eggs are coated with this product much the same way they would be coated with the shortening, and prepared for storage the same way.

The other way to keep eggs works on the same principle, cover the pores and keep the eggs cool. However, the eggs must be kept immersed in a solution of Liquid Sodium Silicate. It is usually mixed with sterilie water.

Liquid Sodium Silicate is a non-toxic substance that will cover the pores of the egg shell so well that you will probably be able to keep fresh eggs for up tp 2 years! You can buy it as Sodium Silicate Solution at any pharmacy, however they may not have it on hand and have to order it for you.

Again, you will have to keep the temperatures very cool and the humidity low.

Place clean fresh eggs in a ceramic crock, one layer deep. Pour liquid sodium silicate over the eggs until the eggs are covered and completely immersed in the solution.
Place a towel over the crock and tie it into place. Place the crock of eggs in a cool, dry place and don't disturb them til you are ready to use them. To use them, just take out how many eggs you need, wash them off in clear water and use as you normally would.

Two tips I would include are;
When you crack your eggs after storage, crack them in a cup, not directly into your food. You might get an awful surprize and ruin a dish.
Practice these techniques before you think you might really need to store eggs. Practice makes perfect!


Here is some information from the USDA on storing eggs in Liquid Sodium Silicate:

"What Uncle Sam Says About Preserving Eggs. These are the months when the thrifty housewife who has her own hens, or who can draw upon the surplus supply of a nearby neighbor, puts away in water glass or limewater, eggs for next autumn and winter. (These months being Spring time when the chickens begin laying again after winter)

To ensure success, care must be exercised in this operation.
Following directions are from the U.S. Department of Agriculture: In the first place, the eggs must be fresh, preferably not more than two or three days old.
This is the reason why it is much more satisfactory to put away eggs produced in one's own chicken yard. Infertile eggs are best if they can be obtained-so, after the hatching, exclude roosters from the flock and kill them for table as needed.

The shells must be clean. Washing an egg with a soiled shell lessens it keeping quality. The protective gelatinous covering over the shell is removed by water and when this is gone the egg spoils more rapidly.

The shells also must be free from even the tiniest crack. One cracked egg will spoil a large number of sound eggs when packed in water glass. Eathenware crocks are good containers. The crocks must be clean and sound. Scald them and let them cool completely before use.
A crock holding six gallons will accomodate eighteen dozens of eggs and about twenty-two pints of solution. Too large crocks are not desirable, since they increase the liability of breaking some of the eggs, and spoiling the entire batch. It must be remembered that the eggs on the bottom crack first and that those in the bottom of the crocks are the last to be removed for use.

Eggs can be put up in smaller crocks and eggs put in the crock first should be used first in the household. Water Glass Method Water Glass is know to the chemist as sodium silicate. It can be purchased by the quart from druggist or poultry supply men. It is a pale yellow, odorless, syrupy liquid. It is diluted in the propotion of one part of silicate to nine parts of distilled water, rain water, or other water. In any case, the water should be boiled and then allowed to cool.
Half fill the vessel with this solution and place the eggs in it, being careful not to crack them. The eggs can be added a few at a time till the container is filled. Be sure to keep about two inches of water glass above the eggs.
Cover the crock and place it in the coolest place available from which the crock will not have to be moved. Inspect the crock from time to time and replace any water that has evaporated with cool boiled water.

When the eggs are to be used, remove them as desired, rinse in clean, cold water and use immediately. Eggs preserved in water glass can be used for soft boiling or poaching, up to November. Before boiling such eggs prick a tiny hole in the large end of the shell with a needle to keep them from cracking. They are satisfactory for frying until about December. From that time until the end of the usual storage period-that is until March-they can be used for omelettes, scrambled eggs, custards, cakes and general cookery.

As the eggs age, the white becomes thinner and is harder to beat. The yolk membrane becomes more delicate and it is correspondingly difficult to separate the whites from the yolks.
Sometimes the white of the egg is tinged pink after very long keeping in water glass. This is due, probably, to a little iron which is in the sodium silicate, but which apparently does not injure the egg for food purposes."

Purchase Sodium Silicate from:

Ray and Anne Keckler
Fruitful Acres


Lehman's Hardware
Kidron, Ohio
(330) 857-5757

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Trade with neighbors for fruit and veggies?

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You are NOT getting 6 to 8 eggs a day from 5 chickens. Impossible. You need to get off your computer once a day and go get the eggs - you're letting them pile up out there!

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Oh YES I am !!!

My chickens are SUPER CHICKENS, I think they lay two at a time!! !! 23_30_104:

Just kidding, I am so busy I guess I'm not checkin everyday. :no_ma:

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The Mother Earth News On Storing Eggs

Eggs will keep six months or more with no treatment at all, although about one out of three will stink. Unwashed eggs keep longer than washed (store-bought). Refrigeration helps a lot. Other methods gave varying results. TMEN seems to be the only bunch that has actually tested these methods.

A sailor told me that he could keep eggs as long as he wanted to by turning them over every day. He figured that kept the yolks centered, away from the shell. I figured he meant he could keep them for the duration of a trip, which might be a few weeks to a couple of months.

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It's ok, nub. Blame it on the Easter bunny. :yes:

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two words: food bank

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Mrs Nub

As said above we sale our extra eggs, we save up 3 to 5 dozzen and call up a couple of neighbors who love our eggs.

We sale enough to buy the feed for them.

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post an ad on your local craigslist.org barter section

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Commercial chickens have been genetically selected over the years to lay as many eggs as possible,i believe the average is getting up over the 1 a day.

If you where checking in the morning one day and at night the next it would seem slightly higher than actual.

The good news is your hens are healthy and happy and laying,not always easy to accomplish in winter.

The extra eggs could also be used for extra animal food.

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Unless you're living by yourself, 5 or so eggs/day doesn't seem like much to me. I eat 3 per day myself for breakfast alone. Add in a few hard boiled eggs, things like egg salad, etc, getting 5 per day per person wouldn't be a big stretch -- particularly with the usual home-raised chickens, which often produce relatively small eggs.

Instead of giving them away, why not just eat them? If nothing else, it should help lower your other food costs.

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It has happened to me one time so far. I had three chickens - I'm now down to two but the one that died was a white leghorn - only laid white eggs. The other two lay brown eggs. I collect the eggs daily - my tractor is very small - no good place to hide eggs. One day I had three brown eggs - I don't know the physiology of laying an egg but it is possible for them to lay two in a day. I'm sure it is rare but it can happen.

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I gave a dozen to a family friend and she made us egg noodles. They were delicious - my son who is not an egg fan liked them a great deal. I don't know how long they would store but based on this post sounds like a long time.

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Yes, I didn't realize they would keep in the fridge for 6 months.

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We buy eggs on sale, whenever they cost less than 50 cents a dozen and stock up so that we have as many as 4 dozen in the refrigerator. We eat them as we wish and replace them when they are on sale again. I've never encountered a bad egg and we're always buying at the right price.

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Boy, howdy!! There ain't nothing quite like the stank of rank egg. Your day is coming regardless of when you're buying your eggs.

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Here in AZ-CA-MX eggs are $1.29 on a good day, and those eggs have water instead of whites - runs all over the pan and boils instead of frying. I have been buying free-range eggs at the store for $3, and had to try three brands to find a good one. They are better than the cheap ones, but not much. I've been thinking a lot about getting some chickens just so I can have eggs that that set in a blob like they're supposed to.

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The fact that eggs are still considered 'fresh' after 6 months is one of the reasons I prefer a home flock and hours old eggs. They taste so much better, especially if they get plenty of greens to eat. I love those deep orange yolks that stand up tall.

The world record is 364 eggs in 1 year IIRC, held by a brown egg laying black australorpe. But that might have been (and likely was) 2 some days in spring and skipping some days in winter.

Unless you are down under your hens are aliens or something if 5 are laying 8 eggs a day in winter. You are beating the world record and ought to contact world record orgs and breeders to use your super birds.

Fresh eggs are so good we ate them for more than one meal a day when we had abundance. Fried, boiled, poached, in quiche and custards... just add some fresh veggies and you have a very healthy meal. Deviled eggs make a festive snack, and egg salad sandwiches and scrambled egg sandwiches are good too.

We stopped keeping a flock temporarily when our last elderly hen passed, but I still have the set up and plan to get a new flock down the line. 100% black aussies so they breed true.

With the bird flu scare I am afraid the gov would want to kill our pets if we got a new flock this spring. But we might.

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I Love eggs from my head down to my Legs !!

I could eat them for breakfast lunch and dinner, no problem.....

But are they bad for your veins, cholesterol????

I don't have high cholesterol but don't want to get it either.

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We did not find eating lots of them raised our cholesterol, and we had it checked. I suspect sugar with food with cholesterol of being the deadly duo myself, bur we are not all alike, so if you eat a lot of eggs, get it tested.

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The whole diet / lipid / heart disease hypothesis has been very thoroughly debunked recently, by the likes of Gary Taubes, in "Good Calories, Bad Calories."

The bottom line:

1. Eating lots of saturated fat and cholesterol is actually good for you
2. Many of the diseases of modern civilization stem from not eating enough saturated fat
3. Having a low cholesterol level doesn't protect you from heart disease; in fact, it can do the reverse
4. Grains such as wheat and corn are much worse for you from a health perspective than animal products or saturated fat
5. The amount of cholesterol in your diet only has a weak, secondary effect on your blood lipid levels

The current belief system is really just based on dogma, which is heavily reinforced by the drug industry (which, in turn, finances medical schools, provides money to politicians, etc, etc).

Many good blogs on this subject, too.

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Ok, I just went to the chicken coop 4;00 pm Ca. time there they were 6 eggs, 5 chickens, I made sure I got all the eggs yesterday before dinner 5;00 pm 5 eggs.

I do have super chickens !!!!! :9536:

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i guess this was written with Asia in mind
but might come in handy if someone has to start from scratch

Raising Healthy Poultry Under Primitive Conditions

79 pages / 7.55 mgs

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yea we used to have a few rhode Island reds that would do that, Campell ducks do that even more, and their eggs are awesome!

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The best way to store beef is on the hoof.

Having chickens IS stored eggs.

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A Method for Storing Fresh Eggs up to Two Years

http://www.goldismoney.info/forums//...d.php?t=402614

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Dietary cholesterol and the risk of cardiovascular disease in patients: a review of the Harvard Egg Study and other data.

[Article in English, French]
Jones PJ.
Nutrition and Functional Foods, Richardson Centre for Functional Foods and Nutraceuticals, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, MB, Canada. peter_jones@umanitoba.ca
For many years, both the medical community and the general public have incorrectly associated eggs with high serum cholesterol and being deleterious to health, even though cholesterol is an essential component of cells and organisms. It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease (CHD) may have contained fundamental study design flaws, including conflated cholesterol and saturated fat consumption rates and inaccurately assessed actual dietary intake of fats by study subjects. Newer and more accurate trials, such as that conducted by Frank B. Hu of the Harvard School of Public Health (1999), have shown that consumption of up to seven eggs per week is harmonious with a healthful diet, except in male patients with diabetes for whom an association in higher egg intake and CHD was shown. The degree to which serum cholesterol is increased by dietary cholesterol depends upon whether the individual's cholesterol synthesis is stimulated or down-regulated by such increased intake, and the extent to which each of these phenomena occurs varies from person to person. Several recent studies have shed additional light on the specific interplay between dietary cholesterol and cardiovascular health risk. It is evident that the dynamics of cholesterol homeostasis, and of development of CHD, are extremely complex and multifactorial. In summary, the earlier purported adverse relationship between dietary cholesterol and heart disease risk was likely largely over-exaggerated.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...&ordinalpos=11

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Three eggs today from two chickens.

This time there is a plausible explanation. I checked the tractor Sundy afternoon ad there was only one egg. I just got home from work and checked and found three so possible one was laid late yesterday afternoon.

I also left their light on inadvertently all night (second time that has happened to me - feel a little guilty about it)

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I am pleased to announce that we no longer have too many eggs.

I just got done cooking 5 dozen scrambled eggs and giving them to our 4 dogs.

They Loved them!!!

and I also just finished hard boiling 3 dozen to mash up for the chickens.

we are getting 12 to 14 eggs a day now.
and i eat around 15 to 20 a week.
and my wife is burned out on eggs. So she is no help right now....lol

But my "too many eggs" problem is solved.

Thanks to the one that suggested feeding them to the dogs.
The dogs really liked em.:ok:

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15 eggs per dog??!!! At once?? That's not good! Look for some BAD poop that's going to need cleaning up! You'll shock a dog's system with too many! Same with the chickens! It's OK to feed them, but not in those quantities!

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opps...and they ate em fast too. :signs14:

Luckly I don't have to clean their poop.
They have there own 2 acres that they live in.

So how many should I give them next week?

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Maybe ONE egg per day for a dog!!!

For chickens they should be given as a treat. A few every other day.

Don't you have friends or neighbors you can give or sell eggs too? I always have a couple of people lined up that will appreciate home raised eggs. They're not hard to get rid of.

Otherwise - start making noodles and plenty of them :biggrin:

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Tipsy; I love my dogs. So you had me me worried.

But My wife says that she doesn't think its gonna hurt them.
She is an animal lover also and had lots of experience with many animals

And I don't know if you know,
but my dogs are not small dogs.

one is probably close to 90 pounds..
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...0_917596_n.jpg

the others range from 60 to 40 pounds

Do you Think that makes a difference?

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Stacker:

Sure does make a difference! Still - 15 eggs at once?

That's one handsome dog you've got there :ok: Keep up the good work with your chickens - looks like you've got those girls laying well.

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@Stacker: wonderful looking dog there!

Dogs are carnivores; they handle animal products just fine. 15 eggs for a large dog is nothing. Don't worry. On the very rare chance they were sensitive, they would just barf and it would be over.

It's those damn grain-based feeds that are the real problem.

I have a farmer friend who feeds his pigs excess milk from his cows. Keep it all in the family, right?

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This is just laughable... I truly feel bad for anyone who believes this stuff... I really don't understand why you keep copy / pasting this drivel over and over again into tons of different threads yet you don't even respond to criticism.

Can you please post some evidence that all saturated fats are good for you? Please explain why your diet is good for you without any links or research studies. Just in basic terms that any eight year old can understand. I can do that with my diet easily, but you seem incapable. I doubt you even follow this diet, or you would probably be in the hospital already.
This guy is basically pushing the Atkin's diet and has huge financial incentives to sell. Maybe Taubes offers a diet in which you will get as little nutrients as possible so that you can stop by the Atkins Center, which sells "Atkins" brand vitamins at phenomenal prices

And, CNN Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen (7/8/02) spoke to three of the Harvard researchers spotlighted in Taubes' piece - the ones representing a major shift in thinking about Atkins - and heard from them that Taubes had misrepresented their positions on the matter of fats vs. carbs. They all explained that there are good fats and bad fats, and good carbs and bad carbs, making the categorical distinctions that Taubes had worked so hard to elide. And "...cheeseburgers, pork chops, butter and bacon," Cohen says, "the folks who I talked to said: 'You know what? We don't like that kind of fat. We don't think that's good for people."

One Harvard researcher Taubes cited is Walter Willett, who has long been a critic of the prevalence of starchy grains in USDA recommendations, among other things. Taubes seems to elicit phrases from Willett supporting his cheeseburger-based regimen. Yet Willett told Time Magazine (12/24/90): "The less red meat, the better. At most, it should be eaten only occasionally. And it may be maximally effective not to eat red meat at all."
Has Willett changed his viewpoint, or has he been misrepresented? If we're to believe the Washington Post, it's the latter. In "Experts Declare Story Low on Saturated Facts" (8/27/02), Sally Squires spoke to Willett regarding Taubes' remarkable advice to "eat lard straight out of the can" to "reduce your risk of heart disease."
Willett recalled speaking to Taubes about lard, but stressed that "I don't think that lard is part of a healthy diet." Instead, he told Squires, the idea is to "'replace unhealthy fats with healthy fats,' such as those found in fish, nuts, olives and avocados.".


I could spend 30+ pages attacking Taubes' work but you're never going to bother to read what I write anyways... Just want to say that this book is probably in the top 3 poorly written, poorly researched, I have ever read. That said, I would still recommend reading it because it is pretty entertaining at times ( entertaining because of the shyt the author TRIES to assert, and it's important to look into viewpoints different than our own.

I agree with you that wheat and corn are not very good for you at all, and should be avoided like the plague, especially since a high percentage of both crops are genetically modified. If GMO wheat and GMO corn are bad for you, how can animals that have been eating these substances every day from their birth until their slaughter be good for you? You are what you eat.

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Huh? What's laughable is that you feel you have to make stuff up to try to discredit me. I never copy / paste my posts. Tons of different threads? I haven't said much on GIM about this subject, and when I have (last July?), I respond to reasonable criticism whenever I see it. If I've missed it somewhere, please post links and I'll fix that.

Try this one for the eight year olds:

We store energy in our bodies mostly as something called saturated fat. Whatever we eat, including sugar, protein or other kinds of fat, is converted inside us to saturated fat -- so eating saturated fat directly (which mostly comes from other animals) is perfectly natural and healthy.

For the rest of us:

1. Our Paleolithic ancestors ate like this for tens of thousands of years; this diet helps to duplicate our evolutionary metabolic environment.
2. Carbs provoke an insulin response. Insulin has been shown to be a pro-aging hormone; minimizing insulin is therefore a good thing to do.
3. Saturated fats are hormone precursors. Without enough saturated fats, your body can have a hard time making the hormones it needs.
4. Ketogenic diets are anti-cancer and have many other positive health benefits.
5. There are no nutritional requirements for carbohydrates. Your body can make everything it needs without them.

I do follow this diet, and I know dozens of other people who do too. We have all noticed significant improvements in our health since starting to eat this way.

I also follow several blogs where others write about their experiences eating this way, with lots of positive comments there, too.

Taubes isn't the only one who supports this way of eating.

Why do you think that you don't get very many nutrients eating this way? Meat is probably the single most nutrient-rich food you can eat.

I haven't seen this, but I'll look for it. However, why would you believe anything that you hear on CNN, particularly about something like health issues? Oh, and do you know how much money Harvard receives from Big Pharma and Big Agro?

There is a strong anti-Taubes reaction happening in the press at the moment, I'm sure in part because his arguments are comprehensive, convincing, and go strongly against both conventional thinking and Big Pharma.

I disagree.

I've also read lots of other material in this area (including primary research) that ends up being in sync with Taubes. I would post more, but "you're never going to bother to read what I write anyways."

Re: too many eggs
 

Great thread. Why not post a pic of your flock?